Ukraine might suffer defeat due to manpower shortaage.

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Re: Ukraine might suffer defeat due to manpower shortaage.

Post by SteveFoerster » Mon Oct 02, 2023 12:32 pm

Sertorio wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2023 12:25 pm
SteveFoerster wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2023 12:09 pm
Doc wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2023 12:06 pm
So will an additional 130k Russian troops.
From where? They already turned prisons into recruitment zones.
I have always considered you an intelligent person, but how can you justify saying the dumbest things? Russia's armed forces are getting about 40,000 volunteers per month. The planned 130,000 conscripts are just the normal six monthly intake, and none of them will ever be sent to fight in the Ukraine. Russia has as many soldiers as it needs to fight and win the war against NATO in the Ukraine. Turning prisons into recruitment zones? Are you completely crazy? What evidence do you have of such preposterous claim?
We've posted articles on this already, although I'm not surprised your blinders shielded your awareness from them.
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Re: Ukraine might suffer defeat due to manpower shortaage.

Post by Sertorio » Mon Oct 02, 2023 12:34 pm

SteveFoerster wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2023 12:32 pm
Sertorio wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2023 12:25 pm
SteveFoerster wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2023 12:09 pm
Doc wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2023 12:06 pm
So will an additional 130k Russian troops.
From where? They already turned prisons into recruitment zones.
I have always considered you an intelligent person, but how can you justify saying the dumbest things? Russia's armed forces are getting about 40,000 volunteers per month. The planned 130,000 conscripts are just the normal six monthly intake, and none of them will ever be sent to fight in the Ukraine. Russia has as many soldiers as it needs to fight and win the war against NATO in the Ukraine. Turning prisons into recruitment zones? Are you completely crazy? What evidence do you have of such preposterous claim?
We've posted articles on this already, although I'm not surprised your blinders shielded your awareness from them.
You may have "articles" saying it, what you don't have is "evidence"...

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Re: Ukraine might suffer defeat due to manpower shortaage.

Post by SteveFoerster » Mon Oct 02, 2023 12:46 pm

Sertorio wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2023 12:34 pm
SteveFoerster wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2023 12:32 pm
Sertorio wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2023 12:25 pm
SteveFoerster wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2023 12:09 pm
Doc wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2023 12:06 pm
So will an additional 130k Russian troops.
From where? They already turned prisons into recruitment zones.
I have always considered you an intelligent person, but how can you justify saying the dumbest things? Russia's armed forces are getting about 40,000 volunteers per month. The planned 130,000 conscripts are just the normal six monthly intake, and none of them will ever be sent to fight in the Ukraine. Russia has as many soldiers as it needs to fight and win the war against NATO in the Ukraine. Turning prisons into recruitment zones? Are you completely crazy? What evidence do you have of such preposterous claim?
We've posted articles on this already, although I'm not surprised your blinders shielded your awareness from them.
You may have "articles" saying it, what you don't have is "evidence"...
Ho hum, as always, you reject information from credible sources while expecting everyone else to believe dezinformatsiya from incredible sources.
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Re: Ukraine might suffer defeat due to manpower shortaage.

Post by neverfail » Mon Oct 02, 2023 2:26 pm

Doc wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2023 12:06 pm

So will an additional 130k Russian troops. The real problem is the Ukrainian government is going to slowly. That gives the Russians plently of time to dig in their defenses. The Ukrainains should already be at the Azov sea.
Why?

Sorry Doc, but in light of the obsticles Ukraine probably cannot wage its campaigns according to your timetable.

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Re: Ukraine might suffer defeat due to manpower shortaage.

Post by Sertorio » Mon Oct 02, 2023 2:37 pm

SteveFoerster wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2023 12:46 pm
Sertorio wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2023 12:34 pm
SteveFoerster wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2023 12:32 pm
Sertorio wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2023 12:25 pm
SteveFoerster wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2023 12:09 pm
Doc wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2023 12:06 pm
So will an additional 130k Russian troops.
From where? They already turned prisons into recruitment zones.
I have always considered you an intelligent person, but how can you justify saying the dumbest things? Russia's armed forces are getting about 40,000 volunteers per month. The planned 130,000 conscripts are just the normal six monthly intake, and none of them will ever be sent to fight in the Ukraine. Russia has as many soldiers as it needs to fight and win the war against NATO in the Ukraine. Turning prisons into recruitment zones? Are you completely crazy? What evidence do you have of such preposterous claim?
We've posted articles on this already, although I'm not surprised your blinders shielded your awareness from them.
You may have "articles" saying it, what you don't have is "evidence"...
Ho hum, as always, you reject information from credible sources while expecting everyone else to believe dezinformatsiya from incredible sources.
Credible western sources on Russia? When pigs can fly...

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Re: Ukraine might suffer defeat due to manpower shortaage.

Post by Doc » Mon Oct 02, 2023 5:18 pm

SteveFoerster wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2023 12:09 pm
Doc wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2023 12:06 pm
So will an additional 130k Russian troops.
From where? They already turned prisons into recruitment zones.
They have mandatory service. This is the number they get each and every year.
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Re: Ukraine might suffer defeat due to manpower shortaage.

Post by Doc » Mon Oct 02, 2023 5:19 pm

neverfail wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2023 2:26 pm
Doc wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2023 12:06 pm

So will an additional 130k Russian troops. The real problem is the Ukrainian government is going to slowly. That gives the Russians plently of time to dig in their defenses. The Ukrainains should already be at the Azov sea.
Why?

Sorry Doc, but in light of the obsticles Ukraine probably cannot wage its campaigns according to your timetable.
The Ukraine leadership delayed for months this spring. All the while the Russians were digging ditches and laying mines.
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Re: Ukraine might suffer defeat due to manpower shortaage.

Post by Milo » Mon Oct 02, 2023 5:26 pm

Doc wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2023 5:18 pm
SteveFoerster wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2023 12:09 pm
Doc wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2023 12:06 pm
So will an additional 130k Russian troops.
From where? They already turned prisons into recruitment zones.
They have mandatory service. This is the number they get each and every year.
Whether or not it matches the actual people serving is another matter.

How many of them exist only on paper, so their salaries could be diverted to others? In this thugocracy anything is possible.

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Re: Ukraine might suffer defeat due to manpower shortaage.

Post by Doc » Mon Oct 02, 2023 11:51 pm

Milo wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2023 5:26 pm
Doc wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2023 5:18 pm
SteveFoerster wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2023 12:09 pm
Doc wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2023 12:06 pm
So will an additional 130k Russian troops.
From where? They already turned prisons into recruitment zones.
They have mandatory service. This is the number they get each and every year.
Whether or not it matches the actual people serving is another matter.

How many of them exist only on paper, so their salaries could be diverted to others? In this thugocracy anything is possible.
All true. Those 130k conscripts are not to be forced to fight in overseas war. However they will likely face prison time should they not agree to go to Ukraine.
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Re: Ukraine might suffer defeat due to manpower shortaage.

Post by cassowary » Mon Oct 02, 2023 11:58 pm

Doc wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2023 11:51 pm
Milo wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2023 5:26 pm
Doc wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2023 5:18 pm
SteveFoerster wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2023 12:09 pm
Doc wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2023 12:06 pm
So will an additional 130k Russian troops.
From where? They already turned prisons into recruitment zones.
They have mandatory service. This is the number they get each and every year.
Whether or not it matches the actual people serving is another matter.

How many of them exist only on paper, so their salaries could be diverted to others? In this thugocracy anything is possible.
All true. Those 130k conscripts are not to be forced to fight in overseas war. However they will likely face prison time should they not agree to go to Ukraine.
Since Ukraine was part of the Czarist and Soviet Empires, Putin does not consider Ukraine to be overseas.
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