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Jim the Moron
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Re: Israel

Post by Jim the Moron » Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:52 am

The US just announced plans to move their embassy in Israel to Jerusalem. Seems logical, considering that's where Israeli honchos are situated.

But what the hell. Mouth-breathing drooling Muslim honchos are gonna show the world "3 days of rage."

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Re: Israel

Post by Milo » Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:37 pm

Jim the Moron wrote:
Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:52 am
The US just announced plans to move their embassy in Israel to Jerusalem. Seems logical, considering that's where Israeli honchos are situated.

But what the hell. Mouth-breathing drooling Muslim honchos are gonna show the world "3 days of rage."
I was a Zionist before I knew the word. This is great news!

However, the uninformed will blame everything wrong with the Islamic world on this until the US backs down.

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Post by Doc » Wed Dec 06, 2017 2:09 pm

Trump declares Jerusalem capital of Israel. Damn that anti-semite Trump
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Re: Israel

Post by Sertorio » Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:53 am

Time to opt for a mixed Jewish/Palestinian secular state, made up of Israel and the West Bank (but not Gaza) maybe to be called Canaan rather than Israel, in which Jews would represent 80% of the population. Palestinians not wanting to be citizens of such state should move elsewhere. No other solution may be expected to bring peace to the region.

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Re: Israel

Post by Doc » Thu Dec 07, 2017 12:41 pm

I see that people are saying there will be violence because of the recognition of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. But of course that is nonsense as Islam in the "religion of peace".
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Re: Israel

Post by cassowary » Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:31 pm

Sertorio wrote:
Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:53 am
Time to opt for a mixed Jewish/Palestinian secular state, made up of Israel and the West Bank (but not Gaza) maybe to be called Canaan rather than Israel, in which Jews would represent 80% of the population. Palestinians not wanting to be citizens of such state should move elsewhere. No other solution may be expected to bring peace to the region.
Your numbers don't sound right. Jews already comprise 80% of the population with Arabs about 20% in Israel. If you add in the Arabs in the Weat Bank, the % of Jews will be much less and Arabs far more.

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Re: Israel

Post by cassowary » Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:34 pm

Doc wrote:
Thu Dec 07, 2017 12:41 pm
I see that people are saying there will be violence because of the recognition of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. But of course that is nonsense as Islam in the "religion of peace".
Right. Those who criticize Trump's move are thus Islamophobes.

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Re: Israel

Post by Doc » Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:26 pm

cassowary wrote:
Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:34 pm
Doc wrote:
Thu Dec 07, 2017 12:41 pm
I see that people are saying there will be violence because of the recognition of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. But of course that is nonsense as Islam in the "religion of peace".
Right. Those who criticize Trump's move are thus Islamophobes.
Yeah you are right. And look at how many Islamophobes are out there.

http://www.breitbart.com/national-secur ... ouncement/
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Re: Israel

Post by Sertorio » Fri Dec 08, 2017 4:43 am

cassowary wrote:
Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:31 pm
Sertorio wrote:
Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:53 am
Time to opt for a mixed Jewish/Palestinian secular state, made up of Israel and the West Bank (but not Gaza) maybe to be called Canaan rather than Israel, in which Jews would represent 80% of the population. Palestinians not wanting to be citizens of such state should move elsewhere. No other solution may be expected to bring peace to the region.
Your numbers don't sound right. Jews already comprise 80% of the population with Arabs about 20% in Israel. If you add in the Arabs in the Weat Bank, the % of Jews will be much less and Arabs far more.
In Israel proper there are 6.4 million Jews and 2.2 million Palestinians. In the West Bank there are 2.3 million Arabs. In total you have:

Jews: 6.4 million (58%)
Arabs: 4.5 million (42%)

If you count the more than 300,000 Jewish settlers in the West Bank, the percentages will be more like 60/40 in favour of Jews. Seeing that there is continued Jewish immigration to Israel, these percentages will tend to remain as they are, which means that Jews would dominate the unified state of Israel+West Bank. The one state alternative will have no dangers for the Jews in Israel. And eventually Arabs will reach a level of development and adherence to democratic values close to those of Jews, which will contribute to a peaceful and tolerant society.

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Re: Israel

Post by cassowary » Fri Dec 08, 2017 7:10 am

Sertorio wrote:
Fri Dec 08, 2017 4:43 am
cassowary wrote:
Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:31 pm
Sertorio wrote:
Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:53 am
Time to opt for a mixed Jewish/Palestinian secular state, made up of Israel and the West Bank (but not Gaza) maybe to be called Canaan rather than Israel, in which Jews would represent 80% of the population. Palestinians not wanting to be citizens of such state should move elsewhere. No other solution may be expected to bring peace to the region.
Your numbers don't sound right. Jews already comprise 80% of the population with Arabs about 20% in Israel. If you add in the Arabs in the Weat Bank, the % of Jews will be much less and Arabs far more.
In Israel proper there are 6.4 million Jews and 2.2 million Palestinians. In the West Bank there are 2.3 million Arabs. In total you have:

Jews: 6.4 million (58%)
Arabs: 4.5 million (42%)

If you count the more than 300,000 Jewish settlers in the West Bank, the percentages will be more like 60/40 in favour of Jews. Seeing that there is continued Jewish immigration to Israel, these percentages will tend to remain as they are, which means that Jews would dominate the unified state of Israel+West Bank. The one state alternative will have no dangers for the Jews in Israel. And eventually Arabs will reach a level of development and adherence to democratic values close to those of Jews, which will contribute to a peaceful and tolerant society.
But that would be like getting married to a psychopath. I suggest you read the HAMAS Charter. The charter quoted Muslim scripture where it says Mohammed prophesized that Muslims will one day kill all the Jews. So it is like getting married to someone who believes that it is his/her destiny to murder you.

HAMAS Charter
"The Day of Judgement will not come about until Muslims fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stone... s and trees will say O Muslims, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews." (related by al-Bukhari and Muslim).
... Article 7 of the Charter.

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